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Introducing Qwen 3.8-Max, the most capable model in the Qwen family to date—scales to 2.4 trillion parameters, delivering comprehensive improvements across coding, work, research, and long-horizon tasks. Get reliable results for challenging questions and complex tasks. Try today!

Okay, the @VulcanBench results for Qwen3.8-Max are in, and it is not what I expected. First, for anyone new to VulcanBench, here's a quick TL;DR on the eval suite: 23 frontier-hard software engineering tasks taken from real merged OSS PRs, run in a Docker sandbox, 3 runs per task across all three of its effort levels. No puzzles, no random abstract stuff, all real things engineering teams would do with these models. It looks like Qwen3.8-Max has a major overthinking problem, it uses a LOT of tokens and is very slow, period, no other way to see it. My cost to run this benchmark was $126.25, to run the exact same eval suite with DeepSeek V4-Flash was only $13.60. This makes Qwen3.8-Max an insanely expensive model. The tasks Qwen genuinely can't solve fail at every effort level, extra reasoning didn't help. The regression is almost all in work it already handles: six tasks that low solves every single time account for 83% of the 26-point drop, three of them collapsing to zero. It's not losing the hard problems. It's losing the ones it already knows how to do. Since Qwen3.8-Max hit a lot of wall clock budget caps, I thought I'd share more about this. - VulcanBench caps both steps (50–200) and wall clock (5–60 min), each scaled by repo size. - This is aligned with how comparable harnesses bound agents, DeepSWE caps rollouts at 100 environment steps, sitting right inside my step range; Terminal-Bench enforces a per-task wall clock; SWE-bench Verified scaffolds typically allow 20–60 min per instance with 250–350 step limits. - Every model on my chart gets the identical budget, and Qwen is the slowest model I've tested at 20–25 min/task. Soooo... Alibaba positions Qwen3.8-Max as trailing only Claude Fable 5. But on the kind of real coding work engineering teams would actually throw at it, under a fixed budget, its best setting lands mid-pack and its default lands last, so common. If you want to optimize for accuracy, Grok 4.5 is the move. If you want accuracy per dollar, DeepSeek V4-Flash is hard to beat, heck it's 10× cheaper than Qwen and you get higher accuracy. Qwen just isn't in the game at this point, this is not a model I could see engineering teams using for daily coding work.

08-04 AI日报🍁｜阿里 Qwen3.8-Max 重磅发布 今日 AI 圈 5 条要闻，重点看这几条： 1. 阿里发布 Qwen3.8-Max（2.4T 参数旗舰，下周开源权重）； 2. DeepSeek V4 Flash 正式版上线，Agent 能力大幅增强； 3. OpenAI 未发布模型（Astra 相关）在数学上取得 10 项突破； 4. NVIDIA 开源 Nemotron VoiceChat 全双工实时语音模型； 5. 英国光子芯片初创 OLIX 融资 3.12 亿美元。

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先是 GLM5.2，然后是 Kimi K3，现在是 Qwen 3.8 Max，每次国产模型的新发布都更加接近 Coding 领域的 SOTA。从 6 月开始，我感觉国内大模型明显开始在 Coding 和 Agent 领域加速了，和海外顶级 SOTA 的差距正在肉眼可见地缩小。 目前看，国产模型的长程任务、自主运行、反馈回路、跨 Harness 泛化和视觉自我检查等，能力越来越强了。做一个谨慎的预测，预计到 2026 年的年底，对于重度开发者和 Vibe 用户来说，海外模型可能会成为辅助模型，国内的大模型将成为我们的主力工具。 模型用户没有忠诚度，大家会用脚投票的，拭目以待。

Qwen 3.8 Max 发布了，我给他们写了一个公允的评价，可惜好像没被采纳，干脆发在这里吧 简单来说，还是挺不错的，高性价比 K3。 Cola 是一款具备永久记忆的 AI 搭档。她记得与你共同经历过的事，持续理解你的工作与生活，洞察你的愿望、兴趣、关系，帮你完成你想做的任何事情。 在Cola 这种具备超长上下文、超复杂的任务的 Harness，对大模型的能力要求极高。Qwen 3.8 Max 这个前沿智能模型，帮助我们实现了 Cola 「念念不忘，必有回响」的用户承诺，在用户社区中饱受好评

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好家伙，qwen3.8-max 正式版来了，2.4T 参数、1M 上下文，下周 Max 和 27B 的权重都开源(听说 27B 在本地 17GB 内存就能跑)！！！ 它绝对是非常被低估的模型，视觉理解、前端、复杂任务都是全球第一梯队，API 价格也是旗舰里最便宜的一档。 两周前我复刻 macOS、植物大战僵尸和黄金矿工，当时已经觉得前端能力挺牛逼，，今天我又拿正式版整了个大活： 第一个，我扔给它一张 2D 户型图，让它把房子装修后 3D 展示： 它先把图重画成带尺寸标注的标准户型图，再 1:1 盖成 3D，家具全配好，可以第一人称走进去逛，切到俯视图和图纸完全对得上，连每扇门往哪边开都没错。 做装修、中介的兄弟们想想这个场景，可以玩起来了。 第二个，我让它做一个能开车、逛街、有昼夜循环的 3D 开放世界城市游戏： 它自己选型、写代码，第一版帧率只有 6 帧，它自己查出来是灯光加太多，改了渲染方式拉回 50 帧。 最后交给我的网页版小 GTA，完全达到了我预期的效果，而且细节做的非常完善。 模型越来越强，Coding的想象空间太大了，等后续再给大家很多的测评和反馈，下面的视频展示效果👇：