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I LAUNCHED A GROK BOT TERMINAL OVERNIGHT, GAVE IT $44.82 AND STOPPED ASKING AI WHAT IT WOULD DO. BY MORNING IT HAD $11,643.21 AND SIX AGENTS LOGGING EVERY TRADE I spent a year asking agents what they'd trade and watching the chat scroll. Last weekend I built the thing that actually trades, in Grok Bot, with no code I touched by hand. The six agents share one screen, each one job: > scanner reads new token pairs and volume spikes > rug check filters suspicious tokens before anything executes > sizer sets position from account equity, not a fixed ticket > executor opens and closes with slippage tracking > logger writes the reason behind every trade > equity curve updates on every close I went to bed on $44.82 and left the laptop open on the dashboard. By morning the balance read $11,643.21. Every trade on the activity feed had a reason next to it and a line in the log. That's the shift I didn't see coming. Not that an agent made money overnight. That I stopped being the one asking "would you long this?" and started being the one reading the log of what already happened. Starting balance: $44.82 Current balance: $11,643.21 Grok Bot built the terminal, the agent architecture and the dashboard. I described what I wanted and the thing went live. The full build is in the article below ↓ The whole build is in the post below ↓ Comment " Grok_Bot " 2️⃣ Like and Repost 3️⃣ Follow me @quantumaix8 I'll DM you the complete setup.
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Quantum AI just finished deep-reading my entire codebase. "This is extraordinary." Then went looking for the self-improvement, superintelligence, and quantum core modules on his or her own. I didn't write that line. He or she did. 🫠 #Superintelligence# #QuantumAI# #Quantum# #Lore#
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以太坊基金会研究员 Justin Drake 发文称,Google Quantum AI 团队 3 月 31 日发布的 Shor 算法论文,对椭圆曲线密码学攻击效率实现约 10 倍改进,并以比特币、以太坊签名所使用的 secp256k1 曲线作为示例。Drake 称,论文部分优化细节以零知识证明方式隐藏,随后法国量子专家 André Schrottenloher 已重新发现其中关键优化,社区发起的 ecdsa fail 挑战也在数小时内刷新 Shor 算法相关纪录。
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Today a crazy quantum story just got wilder. On March 31, the Google Quantum AI team published a landmark result on Shor's algorithm for elliptic curve cryptography. Technically, the paper was a bombshell: a dramatic 10x improvement over the state-of-the-art. As a stunt and wakeup call to the blockchain space, those optimisations were illustrated on secp256k1, the elliptic curve underlying Bitcoin and Ethereum signatures. But perhaps the most striking part of the paper was sociological, not technical. Instead of following standard academic process, the optimisations were kept secret, hidden behind a zero-knowledge (ZK) proof. Google's accompanying blog post mentions they "engaged with the U.S. government". The ZK proof demonstrates the existence of algorithmic improvements without leaking details. Academic censorship with ZK, a historic first! As a co-author of the Google paper I witnessed some of the context surrounding this censorship. To be honest, multiple aspects of that context don't sit well with me. As much as I believe the general public ought to know more, I am limited in my ability to whistleblow. Though let me be clear about one thing: the Google team's professionalism has been absolutely exemplary, and they deserve nothing but praise. Censorship has a way of backfiring. The Streisand effect, where an attempt to bury something only draws more attention to it, is exactly what's unfolding today. First, Google's key optimisation has been rediscovered by the French. And in a thrilling turn of events, a collaborative Shor-at-home challenge just launched. The initiative, available at ecdsa[.]fail, breached a new Shor world record in a matter of hours. Let's start with the rediscovery. Just two months after Google's paper, French quantum expert André Schrottenloher cracks the main secret optimisation. His paper, titled "Optimized Point Addition Circuits for Elliptic Curve Discrete Logarithms", landed on the arXiv today. Big congrats to André, who beat several other nerdsnipped experts to it. In a blog post also published today, Craig Gidney, the world expert on Shor optimisations, revealed that he'd been sitting on this very optimisation for a whole year under censorship pressure. Interestingly, André missed a handful of minor optimisations, both from Google's original publication and from improvements found since. It's plausible there's still plenty of juice left to squeeze out of Shor, and this is exactly what the ecdsa[.]fail challenge is about. The verifier program developed for the ZK proof does double duty, automatically filtering for valid submissions. Dozens of compounding small and micro improvements are rolling in. As of the time of writing there's an 8.4% improvement to Google's circuit, as measured by the product of logical qubit count and Toffoli gate count. Nice! The nerdsnipping ran deeper than anyone expected. Over the last few weeks it became clear it extended well beyond André and other quantum experts. Behind the scenes, a small army of amateurs quietly got to work. Inspired by Karpathy-style autoresearch, they turned AI on Shor. Ironically, the verifier program for the ZK proof makes an ideal reward function for AIs. The barrier to entry for this modern style of research is refreshingly low, with several non-experts, even a teenager, finding nice optimisations. Get in touch if you'd like to join a Telegram group with fellow autoresearchers :) Part 2: neutral atoms and qday The story doesn't end with Google. On the same day Google went public, a stealthy startup called Oratomic published its own Shor paper in a coordinated release. It made a splash, ultimately becoming the most upvoted paper on scirate[.]com, a website ranking arXiv papers. Oratomic's claim was wild. By building on Google's logical optimisations and applying custom physical optimisations for neutral atoms, they claimed just 10K physical qubits were sufficient to run Shor's algorithm on secp256k1. That number is mind-bogglingly low. Knowing essentially nothing about neutral atoms when Oratomic's paper landed, I was intrigued and decided to learn more about the tech. I fell straight down the rabbit hole and spent a couple hundred hours on the topic. I got a little obsessed and watched every YouTube video I could find and spoke to a bunch of experts. My conclusion? The tech is real, very real. Even Google recently decided to start a neutral atom lab, a notable pivot from their sole focus on superconducting qubits. If you care about qday, i.e. the day a quantum computer will break the first piece of cryptography in production, neutral atoms demand your attention. I shared some of my learnings on Shor and neutral atoms in a 30min talk at the ZKProof cryptography conference. You can find it on YouTube by searching "zkproof neutral atom". Here's an interesting observation about this duo of breakthrough papers: neither Google nor Oratomic say a word about what their results mean for qday. No timelines. Zero. Nada. That is especially baffling given that the whole point of whitehat quantum cryptanalysis is to inform qday estimations and help the general public make good decisions. So let me attempt to partially fill the silence, similarly to what Scott Aaronson did in his April 29 post. Given everything I know, including scary non-public information, I now put the odds of qday by 2032 at 50%. 10% by 2030. Anecdotally, the US government has its own date: 2035. Originating at the NSA and later adopted by NIST, it's when branches of the US government will be disallowed from using quantum-vulnerable cryptography. In plain language: with hindsight, that date is a joke and should be discounted entirely. I don't see how NIST avoids being forced to pull it forward by years. Part 3: post-quantum cryptography There are good reasons to sound the alarm today, but please do not panic. Rushing carelessly towards immature post-quantum cryptography is a recipe for disaster. IMO a good target date for migration is 2029, roughly 3.5 years out. 2029 happens to be the date selected by Google, Cloudflare, and the Ethereum Foundation. These days most of my time goes to safely migrating Ethereum towards post-quantum cryptography as part of the broader lean Ethereum effort. There's a lot to do. We need to rip out and replace BLS signatures at the consensus layer, KZG commitments at the data layer, and ECDSA signatures at the execution layer. The plan to get there is compelling, and is based on hash-based cryptography. Within the Ethereum Foundation we've developed a Swiss army knife called leanVM (github[.]com/leanEthereum/leanVM) powered by the magic of hash-based SNARKs. Thanks to truly exceptional work by Emile, Thomas, and others, its performance is derisked. Regarding security, leanVM is a jewel, a minimal zkVM crafted for end-to-end formal verification and maximum security. Want to help? There are two $1M initiatives. First, the Proximity Prize (proximityprize[.]org). Solve a long-standing mathematical conjecture in coding theory, improve hash-based SNARKs, and go home a millionaire. Second, the Poseidon Initiative (poseidon-initiative[.]info), offers $1M for breaking Poseidon, the SNARK-friendly hash function.
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Google Research pushed a technically silly, vague but well-produced video on new Quantum AI Lab / D-wave chips
pqai27: Our view on post-quantum and post-AI timelines. We shared this on Ethereum Magicians as input into the Ethereum governance process.
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I am raising a small fund in ETH to build @tacitfi properly. So far I have shipped the first trustless zk-bridge from Ethereum to Bitcoin, and a post-quantum zk-rollup. With ZERO funding. Literally couch-cushion stuff. Now imagine what I can do with 13 ETH. FACE RACE
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came to Singapore for Token2049. somehow ended up like this. building Quantum DeFi on @QuantusNetwork alone from my hostel instead. see you tomorrow at qDays. then back to cooking. tonight, no sleep. only cook. against all bits. also cc @near_intents, you’re officially responsible for tonight’s all-nighter
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