David Ha, CEO sakana ai & ex-head of google brain tokyo.
recorded a 58-min english segment inside a japanese TBS interview.
AND IT'S THE BEST AI TALK OF THE LAST 2 MONTHS.
taxonomy:
- MCTS across a portfolio - fire the same prompt at 5 models, race them, verifier picks the winner and continues from there
- ARC-AGI-2 - the reasoning benchmark that broke every frontier model. sakana ai hit new sota on it with the MCTS approach
- the agent writes code, runs it, reads the error, dispatches more code
harness lesson: one big model brute-forcing = fragile. many small models + a verifier = leverage.
stack: gpt-5 + gemini 2.5 + DeepSeek-R1 + Qwen 3 → MCTS race → new sota on ARC-AGI-2.
buried on a japanese business channel while everyone argues about context windows. nobody clipped it.
watch it today, then read the article below ↓
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