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❤️独立民科研究员,瞎研究 💚信仰BTC,BTC→个人主权 💙喜欢做看起来没价值事情的小韭菜(比如布道RGB) ☎️唯一TG群组:
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看了英剧《The Capture》,感受很强烈 剧中关于国家监控、Deepfake滥用,Ai操纵等话题细思极恐 伴随着现在Ai技术的发展,剧中的各种伪造等很可能成为现实,或者事实上已经是现实的一部分了,对于个人而言这种恐惧是越来越深的 现在的科技关键之争就在Ai,因为“囚徒困境”的博弈原因,附带发展这类技术的必然性基本上是100%的
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很多社区成员不会测试,所以我做了一个测试视频 不过声音有点小🥲 #BTC# #RGB#
RGB LIGHTNING NODE V0.04发布后,我做第一阶段测试,先将总体测试情况汇报一下: 1. 基本功能测试 (1)程序安装:✅ (2)Loacal Node 创建:✅ ▪️需要提前安装Docker ▪️在Node创建的时候运行Container (3)Regtest Faucet使用:✅ (4)On-Chain BTC转移:✅ (5)LN BTC转移:✅ (6)管理UTXO,包含创建UTXO和增加UTXO:✅ (7)Node导入RGB资产:✅ ▪️需要Bitlight钱包配合 ▪️实质看起来是RGB资产从钱包“跨到”Node (8)RGB资产Exprot到钱包:✅ ▪️需要Bitlight钱包配合 ▪️实质看起来是RGB资产从Node“跨回”钱包 ▪️目前限定Bitlight钱包,未来可以是同RGB协议版本的其他钱包 2. Channel测试 (1)Node Connect:✅ ▪️Node之间建立P2P联系 (2)Channel创建:✅ ▪️需要Node Connet作为前置 ▪️需要理解通道创建的各个参数 ▪️UI界面有待优化 (3)Channel关闭:✅ ▪️UI界面有待优化 (4)RGB资产通过Channel转移:✅ ▪️转移正常,不过只来回测试了几次,未进行数量级别转移测试 ▪️资产展示页面需要优化,目前在LN通道内的RGB资产并不能直观看到 3. 其他功能测试 (1)备份钱包:✅ (2)恢复钱包:✅ (3)Node切换:✅ ---- 整体来说: ▪️主要功能测试均通过,无异常 ▪️部分界面的UI需要优化从而让体验更好 ▪️自建Node依然具有不小的门槛,引入Remote Node才能大幅度降低普通用户的使用门槛 ▪️部分环节的逻辑(比如open channel和close channel)细节我还需要仔细研究 #BTC# #RGB#
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RGB LIGHTNING NODE V0.04发布后,我做第一阶段测试,先将总体测试情况汇报一下: 1. 基本功能测试 (1)程序安装:✅ (2)Loacal Node 创建:✅ ▪️需要提前安装Docker ▪️在Node创建的时候运行Container (3)Regtest Faucet使用:✅ (4)On-Chain BTC转移:✅ (5)LN BTC转移:✅ (6)管理UTXO,包含创建UTXO和增加UTXO:✅ (7)Node导入RGB资产:✅ ▪️需要Bitlight钱包配合 ▪️实质看起来是RGB资产从钱包“跨到”Node (8)RGB资产Exprot到钱包:✅ ▪️需要Bitlight钱包配合 ▪️实质看起来是RGB资产从Node“跨回”钱包 ▪️目前限定Bitlight钱包,未来可以是同RGB协议版本的其他钱包 2. Channel测试 (1)Node Connect:✅ ▪️Node之间建立P2P联系 (2)Channel创建:✅ ▪️需要Node Connet作为前置 ▪️需要理解通道创建的各个参数 ▪️UI界面有待优化 (3)Channel关闭:✅ ▪️UI界面有待优化 (4)RGB资产通过Channel转移:✅ ▪️转移正常,不过只来回测试了几次,未进行数量级别转移测试 ▪️资产展示页面需要优化,目前在LN通道内的RGB资产并不能直观看到 3. 其他功能测试 (1)备份钱包:✅ (2)恢复钱包:✅ (3)Node切换:✅ ---- 整体来说: ▪️主要功能测试均通过,无异常 ▪️部分界面的UI需要优化从而让体验更好 ▪️自建Node依然具有不小的门槛,引入Remote Node才能大幅度降低普通用户的使用门槛 ▪️部分环节的逻辑(比如open channel和close channel)细节我还需要仔细研究 #BTC# #RGB#
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赌球, 全世界的球都是假的! 为什么花那么多钱? 10亿人民币去买一个球员, 你以为买他去赢啊, 买他去输! 他整队球价值100个亿, 最强的球队, 他就是跟全世界的赌球的人 勾结的。 这一场球我就输, 买我赢的全死了! 就是世界杯, 初赛的时候也是假的, 一定有的! 不是每场都是, 而是以我眼看都一样。 那些国家的联赛越贵, 那些球员越是假球。 我是不赞成, 你养成一个赌的习惯的, 可是你从来没赌过, 或者你也不懂这个是赌, 恭喜你, 你以后都不要学! ----王晶
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#BTC# #RGB# 趁着这个推特,正好梳理一下最近 #RGB# 协议的发展情况。 从3月24日RGB Lightning Node 0.01发布之后,就是两条腿在走路: ▪️Lightning Node的持续更新:从v0.01到v0.02到v0.03到v0.04,不断的将Node的功能完善,使其能够尽可能快的达到公测的地步; ▪️Bitlight wallet同步做了若干次更新:内容包括节点升级、与Bitcoin core的版本同步升级、配合Node升级、修复若干社区反馈的小问题。 所以大家感觉进度是越来越快的。 在Crypto当前的市场环境下,能踏实做事的团队不多了,也是从这些进展上让我对于RGB协议发展的未来更有信心!
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Bitlight Wallet v1.3.1 Released We are pleased to announce the release of Bitlight Wallet v1.3.1, introducing key enhancements to RGB asset interoperability and browser extension performance. What's New: • RGB Asset Consignment Import/Export — Bitlight Wallet now supports importing and exporting RGB asset consignments for RGB Lightning Nodes on Regtest, shipped alongside rgb-ldk-control-panel v0.0.4. This milestone enables developers to test end-to-end RGB asset transfers across Lightning channels in a controlled environment. • Chrome Extension Optimization — The Bitlight WASM library powering the Chrome extension has been optimized and upgraded. These updates reflect our continued commitment to advancing RGB protocol infrastructure and delivering a seamless developer experience. We encourage developers building on RGB Lightning to test consignment workflows and provide feedback. Make Bitcoin Smart.
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正如之前预料的一样:量子技术的发展会比大家想象的快 这会促进大家对于该技术所产生的真实挑战的感知 然后我们可能就能看到更多的协调活动 也可以观察人类群体在面临真实风险时的行动力和决策力 #quantum#
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Today a crazy quantum story just got wilder. On March 31, the Google Quantum AI team published a landmark result on Shor's algorithm for elliptic curve cryptography. Technically, the paper was a bombshell: a dramatic 10x improvement over the state-of-the-art. As a stunt and wakeup call to the blockchain space, those optimisations were illustrated on secp256k1, the elliptic curve underlying Bitcoin and Ethereum signatures. But perhaps the most striking part of the paper was sociological, not technical. Instead of following standard academic process, the optimisations were kept secret, hidden behind a zero-knowledge (ZK) proof. Google's accompanying blog post mentions they "engaged with the U.S. government". The ZK proof demonstrates the existence of algorithmic improvements without leaking details. Academic censorship with ZK, a historic first! As a co-author of the Google paper I witnessed some of the context surrounding this censorship. To be honest, multiple aspects of that context don't sit well with me. As much as I believe the general public ought to know more, I am limited in my ability to whistleblow. Though let me be clear about one thing: the Google team's professionalism has been absolutely exemplary, and they deserve nothing but praise. Censorship has a way of backfiring. The Streisand effect, where an attempt to bury something only draws more attention to it, is exactly what's unfolding today. First, Google's key optimisation has been rediscovered by the French. And in a thrilling turn of events, a collaborative Shor-at-home challenge just launched. The initiative, available at ecdsa[.]fail, breached a new Shor world record in a matter of hours. Let's start with the rediscovery. Just two months after Google's paper, French quantum expert André Schrottenloher cracks the main secret optimisation. His paper, titled "Optimized Point Addition Circuits for Elliptic Curve Discrete Logarithms", landed on the arXiv today. Big congrats to André, who beat several other nerdsnipped experts to it. In a blog post also published today, Craig Gidney, the world expert on Shor optimisations, revealed that he'd been sitting on this very optimisation for a whole year under censorship pressure. Interestingly, André missed a handful of minor optimisations, both from Google's original publication and from improvements found since. It's plausible there's still plenty of juice left to squeeze out of Shor, and this is exactly what the ecdsa[.]fail challenge is about. The verifier program developed for the ZK proof does double duty, automatically filtering for valid submissions. Dozens of compounding small and micro improvements are rolling in. As of the time of writing there's an 8.4% improvement to Google's circuit, as measured by the product of logical qubit count and Toffoli gate count. Nice! The nerdsnipping ran deeper than anyone expected. Over the last few weeks it became clear it extended well beyond André and other quantum experts. Behind the scenes, a small army of amateurs quietly got to work. Inspired by Karpathy-style autoresearch, they turned AI on Shor. Ironically, the verifier program for the ZK proof makes an ideal reward function for AIs. The barrier to entry for this modern style of research is refreshingly low, with several non-experts, even a teenager, finding nice optimisations. Get in touch if you'd like to join a Telegram group with fellow autoresearchers :) Part 2: neutral atoms and qday The story doesn't end with Google. On the same day Google went public, a stealthy startup called Oratomic published its own Shor paper in a coordinated release. It made a splash, ultimately becoming the most upvoted paper on scirate[.]com, a website ranking arXiv papers. Oratomic's claim was wild. By building on Google's logical optimisations and applying custom physical optimisations for neutral atoms, they claimed just 10K physical qubits were sufficient to run Shor's algorithm on secp256k1. That number is mind-bogglingly low. Knowing essentially nothing about neutral atoms when Oratomic's paper landed, I was intrigued and decided to learn more about the tech. I fell straight down the rabbit hole and spent a couple hundred hours on the topic. I got a little obsessed and watched every YouTube video I could find and spoke to a bunch of experts. My conclusion? The tech is real, very real. Even Google recently decided to start a neutral atom lab, a notable pivot from their sole focus on superconducting qubits. If you care about qday, i.e. the day a quantum computer will break the first piece of cryptography in production, neutral atoms demand your attention. I shared some of my learnings on Shor and neutral atoms in a 30min talk at the ZKProof cryptography conference. You can find it on YouTube by searching "zkproof neutral atom". Here's an interesting observation about this duo of breakthrough papers: neither Google nor Oratomic say a word about what their results mean for qday. No timelines. Zero. Nada. That is especially baffling given that the whole point of whitehat quantum cryptanalysis is to inform qday estimations and help the general public make good decisions. So let me attempt to partially fill the silence, similarly to what Scott Aaronson did in his April 29 post. Given everything I know, including scary non-public information, I now put the odds of qday by 2032 at 50%. 10% by 2030. Anecdotally, the US government has its own date: 2035. Originating at the NSA and later adopted by NIST, it's when branches of the US government will be disallowed from using quantum-vulnerable cryptography. In plain language: with hindsight, that date is a joke and should be discounted entirely. I don't see how NIST avoids being forced to pull it forward by years. Part 3: post-quantum cryptography There are good reasons to sound the alarm today, but please do not panic. Rushing carelessly towards immature post-quantum cryptography is a recipe for disaster. IMO a good target date for migration is 2029, roughly 3.5 years out. 2029 happens to be the date selected by Google, Cloudflare, and the Ethereum Foundation. These days most of my time goes to safely migrating Ethereum towards post-quantum cryptography as part of the broader lean Ethereum effort. There's a lot to do. We need to rip out and replace BLS signatures at the consensus layer, KZG commitments at the data layer, and ECDSA signatures at the execution layer. The plan to get there is compelling, and is based on hash-based cryptography. Within the Ethereum Foundation we've developed a Swiss army knife called leanVM (github[.]com/leanEthereum/leanVM) powered by the magic of hash-based SNARKs. Thanks to truly exceptional work by Emile, Thomas, and others, its performance is derisked. Regarding security, leanVM is a jewel, a minimal zkVM crafted for end-to-end formal verification and maximum security. Want to help? There are two $1M initiatives. First, the Proximity Prize (proximityprize[.]org). Solve a long-standing mathematical conjecture in coding theory, improve hash-based SNARKs, and go home a millionaire. Second, the Poseidon Initiative (poseidon-initiative[.]info), offers $1M for breaking Poseidon, the SNARK-friendly hash function.
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区块链被收编的既视感 只能拿好自己的 $BTC 然后等等看 貌似也没有其他办法了
RGB协议(05/29) 1. 关于RGB Payjoin @Rgb__Market 更新将要支持 #RGB# Payjoin交易模式,我解释一下这个模式: ▪️Payjoin这个方式是 @BitlightLabs 提出的RGB资产在主网的非托管交易形式,技术方案详见: ▪️我看到有人说这种方式需要“在线”,其实这个在线跟大家想象中的在线不一样,不是说你要一直守在那,是你需要参与到整个过程的几次交互中(比如一方构建psbt,另一方完善psbt,一方签名,另一方签名然后广播),类似于我们购物那种“下单-付款-发货”(不一定类比的对啊)这种在线的意思,在有社交信息配合的情况下,只是麻烦了些,但是非托管 ▪️如果他们能推出这个方式的市场,会增加他们在RGB生态中的占位 2. 关于RLN RLN主网上线了不是说像“破纪录”那种一个点一样,而是一个过程,RLN主网也需要大规模的测试,从而找出可能存在的问题,然后才是稳定的RLN主网版本,这是协议走向生产级必须要经历的 所以,可以把RLN主网上线当作一个突破性的事件来看待,但是要明白它不是一蹴而就的 我也在思考如何能帮助进行大规模测试,也许可以搞一个 ”RGB火炬计划” 快速的增加RLN的使用来助力测试 3. 关于RGB资产的转移形式 RGB的交易形式跟传统的形式不同,所以有些人觉得不适应,其实这种交易形式有自己很独特的好处: ▪️每个人的地址就相当于自己的“家”,在一般的区块链系统中,别人可以随便往你家里丢垃圾,甚至丢带毒的垃圾,你不会觉得这是很无语的事情吗?而RGB的这种转移形式就完全规避了这个问题,我的“家”我做主,别人是进不来的,哪怕是转移也是一次性的授权,我规定的资产,我规定的数量 ▪️这种形式还解决了另外一个问题:不会转错,想一想每年有多少人因为转错而丢失了多少资产 ▪️更不要说这种方式的隐私性是多么强,对于有些人来说,隐私才是最重要的事情,而不是其他 4. 关于$RGB 很多人问目前 $RGB 的情况,我说一下我的核心看法: ▪️如果你相信 #RGB# 协议,那么是需要非常关注 $RGB 的,因为如果RGB协议成功了,那么一定会有一个图腾出现,这个图腾必然是 $RGB ;如果你不相信,那么一定不要参与 ▪️目前的价格大概是$0.25,市值约$5M,考虑到约有30%的burn情况,实际市值约$3.5M ▪️RGB的上限在哪里,我真不知道,因为抬头看不到 投资有风险,所以任何投资都需要自己做好规划,并对自己的资金负责,其他人(也就是我)无法对你负责
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@TrderCHFMY 我有种感觉, $RGB 有机会成为一个“现象级”标的
@bodhicitta777 @Vladcostea @gladstein @HRF @fedibtc @blksresearch @Blockstream yes client-side validation was something @peterktodd and i were thinking about some years back, had a 4 hr voice call on the topic. @dr_orlovsky even has confidential transactions added in it for RGB assets.
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要是让我在 @elonmusk 和 Sam Altman 中选一个领导Ai的发展: 毫无疑问:Elon!
Grubles的这句话其实刺破了一些事情。 $BTC 本身就是货币,但是为什么号称“ #BTC# 的项目”会把引入稳定币作为宗旨,事实上这种项目不在少数。 从本质上来说,这叫“背离初心”,但是考虑到现实情况,稳定币/RWA已经成为大家公认的趋势,做稳定币支付或者场景的产品是可以让项目赚钱的,这也是现实考量。 所以,我在介绍稳定币和BTC的一篇文章中说到:稳定币的快速发展会让BTC本位支付迅速边缘化。 所以,有纯粹的理想主义者吗? 也许有,但是大部分人不是,包括那些站在稳定币/RWA角度的人看一些玩情绪meme的人一样,只不过是五十步笑百步罢了。 这一点在BTC HOLDER和BTC Trader中也非常浓烈的展示着: ▪️Holder对于价格不敏感,而Trader很敏感 ▪️但当Holder因为某种原因绑定了 $BTC (比如拥有或开发了基于BTC的产品),他们也会变得对于价格敏感。我认识的一些很厉害的研究者当他们梭哈了BTC之后,对于价格很难不关注和心情波动 ▪️从本质上来说,他们依然不是坚定的Holer,因为当他们对于价格敏感的时候,就已经很难把BTC当作一种原生货币在看待了 当然,我并不是排斥这种现象,我也不认为这两类有对错之分,因为人都是生存在物质世界里而不是一片虚无中的,和物质世界交融是不可避免的。 你我皆俗人!
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Tell them you're a Bitcoin project. Now introduce the stablecoin integration.
建设 $RGB 有很多难点: ▪️周期长:因为技术复杂,很多人熬不住 ▪️有门槛:需要了解的东西多,很多人不愿意学 ▪️模式新:跟传统的交易形式不同,很多人不适应 ▪️营销弱:几乎无营销和Pr,纯靠研究者自己挖掘 ▪️关注少:鉴于以上几点,能长期保持关注的很少 建设 #RGB# 也有很多优点: ▪️无分流:共识性强 ▪️信任高:理解的人信念很强,有的比我还强 ▪️赔率够:当前情况下,还能差到哪里去呢 ▪️叙事强:叙事的长期性和延展性都很强 ▪️争议少:RGB协议本身的正统性在OG圈基本无争议
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RGB协议有一个很有意思的点: 它的叙事是持续发展和推进的,不是一下子就结束的 1. BTC主网CSV这一套逻辑的验证 2. RGB+LN 3. RGB支付 4. Aluvm的壮大和完善--复杂智能合约--这个可以想的就多了 5. RWA,尤其对于私密交易 6. R402 for Agent 7....... #RGB#
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#RGB# RGB是什么? L1?不是 L2?也不是 我也在想怎么给他一个定位 直到看到peter todd的说法: L1.5 它利用BTC主网来做确认性 它利用LN来做传输性 L1.5,挺有意思的一个说法
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Liquid发布了新的Roadmap: 1. Elements 代码库 ▪️Elements 是 Liquid 的底层开源平台,本次路线图重点优化支付流畅度和RWA发行体验 ▪️移除 21M 发行上限(ELIP 203):完美适配法币稳定币、大规模证券和商业资产,计划 5月底(2026)硬分叉激活。 ▪️0-Conf(零确认):实现近乎即时结算,服务商可在交易进块前安全处理,大幅降低支付和 Swap 的等待摩擦。数周内开启公测,目标 6 月正式发布,后续集成 Esplora 等浏览器支持 。 ▪️MAF 多资产手续费(ELIP 204):允许用任意发行资产支付手续费(节点可配置汇率),极大方便稳定币用户和机构。 2. Elements 代码库 ▪️持续与 Bitcoin Core 保持同步,确保安全性和性能。 已达到 Bitcoin Core 29 版本对齐,7 月发布候选版。 ▪️UPP(User-Pays Peg-In,ELIP 202):用户自行承担 Peg-in 成本,已合并进 Elements 23.4.0rc2。 ▪️Taproot Sweeps:将 Peg-in UTXO 迁移到 Taproot 输出,管理成本从 ~500 sats 降至 20-30 sats,计划 2027 年激活,提升长期经济可持续性。 3. Quantum Readiness ▪️Liquid 率先布局量子计算时代防护,目标成为比特币生态的后量子测试场。 采用 Switch Commitments + Simplicity 智能合约,已成功演示量子抗性交易签名验证。 ▪️提供钱包端平滑升级路径,无需立即修改共识。 ▪️同步为比特币贡献 hash-based 签名方案和格基密码学研究,包含实验性后量子区块签名环境。 ▪️路线:当前协议 → quantum-ready 缓解 → 完全后量子切换 → 量子威胁出现后的全面保护。 4. BitVM 研究 —— 重新构想 Peg 桥接 ▪️长期研究方向,探索更去信任化的 Liquid 桥接方案。 采用 BitVM-style 1-of-n 桥接,大幅降低当前联合多签(Federation)的信任假设。 ▪️重点优化密码学电路、高效证明系统,用于验证 Liquid 共识规则。 5. 开发者工具升级(Simplicity + LWK) ▪️Simplicity:已推出 Simplex SDK,支持原型应用(如借贷、DEX、后量子验证器),每周都有Simplicity开发者会议。 ▪️LWK(Liquid Wallet Kit):统一开发者工具包,接下来重点提升文档、硬件钱包支持、Lightning 集成(BOLT12 等)以及生产环境稳定性。 6. 企业级功能(Custody & AMP2) ▪️Blockstream Enterprise Custody:多密钥机构托管方案,7 月进入公测。 ▪️AMP2(新一代 Asset Management Platform):架构大幅简化,无需运行完整节点,政策合规更友好,5月底公开发布。 ------ 我一直看好Liquid,其原因是: ▪️Liquid在核心开发上的理念与Bitcoin保持高度一致,人才机构也十分相似 ▪️Liquid是Bitcoin的先行网这个定位,其输出了很多的理念和技术,都有可能未来在Bitcoin主网上运作。 但在我前几年对于 @Liquid_BTC 的调研中,我一直觉得缺少了什么,现在我知道了,是:Simplicity! 随着Liquid集成了Simplicity,其表现力大幅度上升,使得其可以在很多维度上(包括代码、抗量子、bitvm等)开始有计划的升级;同时,随着大家对于安全的重视,Liquid保持了Bitcoin这种形式化可验证脚本的网络,将成为“安全金融”新的选择。 期待Liquid的发展,我将长期保持关注。 #Liquid# #BTC# #Simplicity#
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ICYMI: @Blockstream shares an update on Liquid’s development roadmap. 0-conf and @bitcoincoreorg parity Quantum-ready testnet by EOY BitVM-style 1-of-n bridge research Oracle, DEX and other DeFi infrastructure Review the full roadmap. 👇
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我等了三年 就是要等一个机会 我要争一口气 不是想证明我了不起 我是要告诉人家 我的判断 就是对的 我认定的东西 就是高价值的! #RGB# $RGB 加入【RGB大本营】:
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ETH上的dev在基于uni v4 hook做各种创新,BTC上的一些协议也没有闲着,热度和流动性在肉眼可见的恢复,罗列一下一些协议的具体表现情况: ✅RGB协议: $RGB 价格来到0.2,市值:$4.2M ✅烷烃协议: $DIESEL 价格来到39,市值:$24M ✅TAP协议: $NAT($54M) , $BIT($2.1M) ✅TACIT协议: @z0r0zzz 搞的这个协议密码学上是很硬核的,又是隐私概念的,挺有意思,包括那个ceremony也是常用的可信参数设置的一个环节,值得关注;不过协议本身比较早期,这种基于浏览器的处理形式可能具有一定的安全风险 ✅OP-RETURN协议: 引入Simplicity+TEE是一个有意思的创新,虽然他们推出来一堆代币我是看不懂这个营销策略...... #RGB# #BTC# #Alkane# #TAP# #TACIT# #OPRETURN#
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随着 #RGB# 的热度回升,大家如果在OTC那边交易,一定要核对好相关人员身份,已经出现群友被骗了,切记!! 1️⃣找信誉高的OTC商 2️⃣如果是拉群,必须是OTC商拉群 3️⃣核对中间人的wx号
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